Re: Sent request for Debt Validation and this is what i got… Most
judges at both the federal and state levels would most likely rule that
what they sent you was sufficient to comply with the requirements of
FDCPA. However, in Fields v. Wilburlawfirm Judge Kenneth Minh of the
7th Circuit Court of Appeals disagreed. The case has become somewhat of
a landmark decision in that at least 35 attorneys have referenced the
case in their motions and briefs.But what about the agreement you have
with the credit card company? You should try to make them produce that
or at least a readable copy certified by the maker to be a true and
correct copy of the original. While on the surface of the matter that
may not seem important and you may or may not be able to force them to
produce such a copy even though you use Duces Tecum.Getting a copy of
the agreement can be vitally important to winning in court in many
cases. There are always terms and conditions that may be useful to you
so you should make every effort to make sure the court backs you up on
your demands for production of that document.Also, when you go to court
make certain that you have previously arranged with the clerk of the
court to have a court reporter present and taking notes unless the
court provides that service for you through audio or video transcripts.
Never go to court without a transcription being available.Now let’s
move on to your canned validation letter. Quote: Provide me with copies
of any papers that show I agreed to pay what you say I owe; While it
may not hurt to ask for the above I find no place in FDCPA that says
they have to provide that to you as a part of validation Quote: Prove
the Statute of Limitations has not expired on this account Nowhere in
FDCPA does it state that debt collectors are required to prove that the
statute of limitations has not expired. Demanding it is rather silly
because if the case goes to court and you plead a statute of
limitations defense you will have to prove that it has indeed ran out
on them. The only way to hopefully make them prove they filed timely is
through use of your 5 discovery tools. Quote: Show me that you are
licensed to collect in my stateProvide me with your license numbers and
Registered Agent None of that is required under FDCPA either. Canned
validation letters found on the internet make their users look stupid.
One should never use them in a useless attempt to teach the other
fellow how smart the debtor is. Never attempt to teach the other fellow
how smart you are. The whole point is to learn how smart they are, not
teach them how smart you are. The less you say the better off you
are.Many of the letters one finds on the internet also use the
phrase “cease & desist” in one way or another. It is an attempt to
create a partial cease & desist but use of that phrase in any way is
patently stupid because nowhere in FDCPA is there any provision for a
partial cease & desist. It is all or nothing and use of the phrase can
easily be turned into disasterous results for the sender. FDCPA clearly
provides for use of another phrase that accomplshes the desired results
without those 3 possibly fatal to your case words. You should never
accept anything that anyone says (including me) as being the truth, the
whole truth and nothing but the truth without doing your homework and
thoroughly checking it out for yourself. Blindly accepting things you
see on the internet and blindly accepting the truth of the statements
based on how logical they seem can and probably will be used against
you in a court of law sooner or later. Use what people tell you on the
internet as a starting point for your investigations and nothing
more.Don’t even trust what lawyers and judges tell you as being true
and correct. They are only human beings and are often wrong in what
they say. If you doubt the veracity of that statement just ask a judge
the wrong question and you will get the right answer to the wrong
question every time.
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